#62 - The Heart Behind the Podcast: Brynn's Story Covered by Stenonymous

Episode Summary:
In this episode, the tables are turned as Brynn is interviewed by Mel Elberg for the popular blog: Stenonymous. Brynn shares the story behind launching the Court Reporter Podcast and the deeper mission that drives it. Since January 2023, this platform has aimed to spotlight the unique challenges court reporters face, especially the often-overlooked tension and stress of juggling business ownership and the high demands for perfection of the record.
Joined by Mel from Stenonymous in a candid conversation that explores the origins of the podcast, the power of community, and the importance of giving court reporters a space to be heard, supported, and empowered.
Whether you're a seasoned court reporter or just getting started, this episode is a reminder: You are not alone in this journey.
Court reporters hold one of the most important roles in the justice system.
Speaker AWe're entrusted with the official records of the courts, and we also have to run our own businesses, which is not something most of us were prepared for.
Speaker AI'm Bryn Seymour, freelance court reporter and life coach, and I invite you to join the discussion about the problems we face and the solutions we create on the unique journey of a stenographer.
Speaker BWelcome to the entrepreneurial Court Reporter Podcast.
Speaker CSo what was it that inspired you to start the Court Reporter Podcast?
Speaker CWhy did I start the Court Reporter Podcast?
Speaker CWell, I was always looking for a podcast.
Speaker CI love listening to podcasts.
Speaker CIt's really convenient because while I'm doing my laundry, cooking, or anything like that, I.
Speaker CHi.
Speaker BThank you so much for your patience and.
Speaker BAnd being able to reschedule and everything.
Speaker BI'm really happy we're connecting.
Speaker CMe too.
Speaker CI'm sorry about last time.
Speaker CIt was totally my fault.
Speaker CNo, no time while I was cooking.
Speaker BOf course.
Speaker BIt happens.
Speaker BUm, so you're recording?
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CIf you're okay with that, I can share it with you.
Speaker CDefinitely.
Speaker BYeah, that would be awesome.
Speaker BThen I don't need to figure out how to record because I've never.
Speaker BThanks.
Speaker BCool.
Speaker BSo can I just jump right into it?
Speaker BI have some questions.
Speaker BCool.
Speaker BWell, I'm interested how long you've been doing the podcast.
Speaker BAnd I know you're a life coach, too, and I'm wondering just which came first and, you know, what was your impetus for getting into both and how did it become, you know, an integral part of your, like, life coach Podcast as part of your career?
Speaker CThat's a great question.
Speaker CSo I started the podcast in, yeah, 2023 January.
Speaker CSo at the end of 2022, I announced to my Facebook group and the Facebook community, because that's where, like, all the core reporters, I was like, it's time that we start talking more about the struggles we face and the solutions we can create as we are in such a unique industry that no one really fully understands.
Speaker CAnd I've always listened to podcasts and I've always searched and searched.
Speaker CLike, I'm telling you, like, so often every week, I would search for court reporters, like, in the podcast search bar and Apple podcasts.
Speaker CAnd because, like, it's just so convenient to listen while you're doing your laundry for me, every time while I'm doing my laundry, while I'm cooking, while I'm cleaning, while I'm driving.
Speaker CLike, if I.
Speaker CIf there's something I need to learn about, then I go to podcast to find out.
Speaker CSo I looked and looked and looked, and there was really no one out there who was speaking for the court reporting industry to court reporters to help us out, like, to fix all these, you know, solving all these problems and things that we have to do so much research and trying to figure things out and together.
Speaker CSo while there were so many podcasts from life coaches, and my favorite one was the life coach school, actually, which got me into life coaching.
Speaker CBut those podcasts, they were very helpful for me as a person, as a person who has adhd, as a person who it feels like disorganized and needs just like, you know, for self development, self help, and.
Speaker CBut still nothing specifically for courtrooms.
Speaker CI felt like there's still something missing.
Speaker CLike, I still feel like no one fully understands.
Speaker CThese people do understand me in some way, but I don't know.
Speaker CThere's something.
Speaker CNo one's out there talking on behalf of court reporters.
Speaker CSo I decided that, you know, if the problem.
Speaker CIf there's no solution yet, then I just have to create the solution and just solve the problem and do it myself.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BAwesome.
Speaker BI love that.
Speaker BHow did you meet your mentor, Josh Edwards, and what's been, like, either the.
Speaker CNCRA or the nyscra, New York State Court Reporters Association.
Speaker CHe was assigned to me when I was in court reporting school.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker CAnd, yeah.
Speaker CSo we just started talking, and he would help me with any issues that I had.
Speaker CHe's really good with case Cat and with the technology.
Speaker CHe's like a whiz, and he's master certified court reporter in all the different categories that NCRA has, so that's common.
Speaker BThey assign mentors when you're in.
Speaker BOkay, that's fabulous.
Speaker BI love that.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BWhat's your experience been like, you know, building community with the podcast, and I wonder how that's affected your experience at work, if it has in the court itself.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CSo I started a Facebook group because that seemed to be, like, the best way to build a community for court reporters is where they already are.
Speaker CSo I have been welcoming people into the group, inviting people through the group, trying to build up conversations about, like, what do people want to hear about?
Speaker CWhat are the problems that we can host discussions around?
Speaker CWe can do live discussions.
Speaker CWe can do zoom meetings.
Speaker CWe can do big discussions with all of us.
Speaker CLike, it doesn't have to just be me talking.
Speaker CI don't want it to just be me.
Speaker CI want more conversations in general for court reporters about hearing other people's experiences.
Speaker CLike, how do you handle this?
Speaker CHow do you handle this?
Speaker CHow do you do your bills and your booking and your scheduling, and how do you manage your time when your schedule is so unpredictable?
Speaker CLike, these questions are so different for everyone.
Speaker CSo the Facebook community has been helpful for that.
Speaker CAlthough when I started working full time in core, it became, you know, difficult to make time for it, and it became.
Speaker CWell, I mean, I was working with a group of court reporters, so I tried to, like, I gave them printouts of all the ideas that I had for the podcast and what I would love to talk to them about, and, like, I would love to interview each of them.
Speaker CBut, you know, working full time in court, it's a little difficult to manage our schedules and to find time to meet together.
Speaker CSo that kind of held me back from doing the podcast more and doing more.
Speaker CLike, I felt like I withdrew a little bit from it, but now I officially have resigned as of Wednesday.
Speaker CI submitted.
Speaker CTwo weeks ago, I submitted my letter that I'm going to be going back to freelance so that I can do more, focus more on the podcast and on the coaching, because I really want to become that.
Speaker CI really want more people to be able to be helped by what I needed so badly when I was searching for the podcast.
Speaker CLike, I want to be able to offer that to more people and to really help people one on one as well.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BBeautiful.
Speaker BI love that.
Speaker BDo you have any favorite, you know, moments on the podcast?
Speaker BI know you have a lot of episodes, but any that are just, like, near to your heart, that stand out, that you use antidotes or something?
Speaker CWell, I mean, all of my guests have been amazing, and it's very, like, a wide variety of people.
Speaker CThere's attorneys, there's judges, there are court reporters.
Speaker CBeen amazing.
Speaker CBut, yeah, I know.
Speaker CI just love how I can.
Speaker CLike, how it's just so real.
Speaker CBecause for me, as a court reporter who experiences things on the record, that I'm like, whoa.
Speaker CLike, I wasn't ready for that.
Speaker CAnd when it's, like, real in the moment and happening, I can just get my phone and start recording a podcast episode and just share while.
Speaker CWhile it's fresh.
Speaker CAnd I think that is just like, the one episode I have is called are we on the Record?
Speaker CAnd it talks about the frustration of when the attorneys and judges just start going off on these side conversations without saying that they want to go off the record, and we're still on the record typing everything, and I'm like, do they really want this on the record?
Speaker CBecause it doesn't seem related to the case.
Speaker CAnd they're like, so, like, we have These internal battles, and we're like, what do we do?
Speaker CSo I just came to the conclusion that I need to just interrupt them and ask.
Speaker CSo.
Speaker CBut things like that, I really.
Speaker CI just love having an outlet to be able to share those things.
Speaker BAbsolutely.
Speaker BWell, you answered my next question was, you know, some challenge.
Speaker BWhat a challenging moment in court as a reporter and how you go about tackling them.
Speaker BBut that brings me to another point I've heard brought up on your podcast and maybe elsewhere about speaking up and slowing down and.
Speaker BAnd maybe also, yeah, when you were like, I just have to interrupt them.
Speaker BI have to use, like, critical thinking.
Speaker BBut, yeah, talk to me about speaking up and slowing down.
Speaker CSo that's like, it's interesting because some court reporters are really good at it, like, if.
Speaker CIt kind of depends on the personality type.
Speaker CBut for me, I.
Speaker CI'm an introvert, and it's not easy for me to bring the attention to myself or feel like I'm bringing it to myself and like, not really being a hundred percent sure if I should speak up at this moment or not.
Speaker CBecause sometimes you think you didn't hear something, but, like, you know, we all have an audio backup sync, and when I go back and check, it's very easy be like, oh, why did I not, like, why didn't I get that at that time?
Speaker CBecause in the moment you're doing, you're multitasking, you're typing, you're listening, you're monitoring and everything.
Speaker CAnd so it can be easy to, like, think that you misheard something.
Speaker CSo I always have to, like, I have that hesitation when I'm not sure if I heard something correctly because I'm like, is it really necessary?
Speaker CBecause later on, usually it's so easy to figure it out with the context clues.
Speaker CAnd usually they said it very clearly and it just was something that was just missed in the moment.
Speaker CSo that.
Speaker CWait, what was the original question?
Speaker BOh, just.
Speaker BNo, no, this is interesting.
Speaker BThat's great.
Speaker BBut I guess.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BYes, yes.
Speaker BSelf empowerment.
Speaker CYeah, like, so that's another thing I want to help court reporters with who are especially who are introverted like me, because we don't really learn how to do that confidently in school.
Speaker CThey don't focus on that.
Speaker CIt's more focused on the trade and the skill of typing.
Speaker CSo when it comes to those emotions that we feel and the internal struggles and the battles and, like, should I say this?
Speaker CShould I not say, what do I say?
Speaker CWhat do I do?
Speaker CHow the attention, through my presence and through the way that I'm handling This.
Speaker CSo that is something I want to help people with because we need the help.
Speaker CLike, I needed the help and it wasn't there.
Speaker BYeah, that's awesome.
Speaker BLike social skills.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BThis kind of, I guess, dovetails with that too.
Speaker BI'm interested in your experience.
Speaker BI know a lot of court reporters are women, but it seems like the other people present in the court is kind of like a male dominated industry.
Speaker BAnd I'm wondering, did that have an effect or like kind of for.
Speaker BFor you're feeling like, you know, you needed to self advocate or you know, helping.
Speaker BHelping other women perhaps like in a.
Speaker BIn this kind of male dominated scene?
Speaker CYes.
Speaker CI feel like I, I'm so much like more.
Speaker CWell, okay, not so much, but a little bit more comfortable when it's mostly women.
Speaker CLike, I don't really like to be surrounded just by men.
Speaker CI don't know, it just feels like kind of uncomfortable and.
Speaker CBut the good thing is that, for example, I mean, there are so many more women attorneys nowadays than there were in the past.
Speaker CAnd it's getting better.
Speaker CSo in the Bronx, like in the Bronx Supreme Court where I was working the judges, 90, it felt like 90 of the judges were females.
Speaker CLike every judge.
Speaker BOh, great.
Speaker CI was so great.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BSo this is my bias showing then my assumption.
Speaker CThe tables are turning.
Speaker CWe actually just hosted.
Speaker CI'm part of the Church of God and also, you know, through the podcast and collaborating with the Church of God, which does a lot of sustainable development goal events, we hosted an event for women judges in this month of women's history, March 3rd, we did a UN International Day of Women Judges event.
Speaker CAnd 15 women judges came from the court system to the Church of God in Scarsdale.
Speaker CAnd we just like honored them with.
Speaker CAnd they spoke discussion about the rise of women and how this is possible and like how women really, really taking that step forward.
Speaker BYeah, I love that.
Speaker BThat's awesome.
Speaker BHow do you feel about artifact like AI and the future of sonography work?
Speaker BLike the human ear, the.
Speaker BThe.
Speaker BWhat is it called?
Speaker BThe VTM program.
Speaker BI, I know this is like a hot topic and sonography.
Speaker BI'm just curious on your take.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CWhat do you.
Speaker COkay.
Speaker CSo what do you think is the.
Speaker BVt, actually, I forget, is that what you're developing?
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker CYes.
Speaker CSo that's what I'm doing.
Speaker CThat's really nothing to do with AI.
Speaker CIt's.
Speaker CIt's where you implement a system for yourself as a court reporter where you don't have to be working so much and managing every deadline and every transcript, but you have Built a team for yourself with humans.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker CAssist.
Speaker CI mean, if there is an AI solution, I'm all open to hearing about it and learning about it.
Speaker CLike, if there are AI tools that can help us with our work, I think it's great in many ways.
Speaker CI do think there are risks associated with it.
Speaker CWe have to be careful.
Speaker CThat's why I want to do my research fully and understand what's going on.
Speaker CAnd I still can't say that I'm an expert on speaking.
Speaker CActually, Chris Day and I, we spoke about it when I interviewed him on.
Speaker COn the podcast.
Speaker CSo we spoke about AI, because that's his expertise.
Speaker CI think he does so much research on that.
Speaker CSo I was asking him, like, you know, what is the.
Speaker CWhat is.
Speaker CAre.
Speaker CIs digital reporting using AI or is.
Speaker CIs there an AI tool that we can use?
Speaker CBecause, well, on AI, there.
Speaker CThere is a tool in case Cat.
Speaker CIt's called Check it.
Speaker CCheck it.
Speaker CAnd it's pretty popular in court because some of the other girls were using it.
Speaker CSo I decided to try it.
Speaker CAnd the first day I tried it, I was like, this is kind of garbage, to be honest.
Speaker BIt wasn't.
Speaker CI mean, at least I don't know if it just had a bad day when I use it.
Speaker CBut it was suggesting changes that were completely ridiculous.
Speaker BLike, wow.
Speaker CLike, it suggested changing address to dress, even though the context was asking, what is your address?
Speaker CState your address for the record.
Speaker CLike, they.
Speaker CThey were suggesting to change it to dress.
Speaker CAnd I'm like, what?
Speaker CThey have no intelligence.
Speaker BYeah, right.
Speaker CSo I don't.
Speaker CBut I know artificial intelligence, like, they do.
Speaker CIt is supposed to be intelligent.
Speaker CSo maybe that was just like a fluke, but that stopped me from using it.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BThat's interesting.
Speaker BI love the continuity between your.
Speaker BYour spiritual work, your love of helping people.
Speaker BAnd I think, you know, the industry is really lucky to have someone like you.
Speaker BAnd I'm wondering.
Speaker BYeah, I guess.
Speaker BI mean, you kind of told me you're.
Speaker BYou're putting your resignation, but I was going to ask, you know, about making time for your passions and interests.
Speaker BLike, even outside of the podcast, your volunteer work and spirituality, I think is clearly really present in your work.
Speaker BBut I'm just curious how you.
Speaker BHow you work.
Speaker BLife balance, kind of.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CSo there's a program that I took when I was in my coaching certification school, and it's called Monday Hour One, where you.
Speaker CIt trains you to work on making a schedule for yourself.
Speaker CSo every Monday, or I like to do Sundays, I would.
Speaker CThe idea is to plan out the things that you want to do for your personal, like, what's most meaningful and what's most important to you.
Speaker CYou plan that first and then you plan all your work and everything else around that.
Speaker CAnd so I was never able to really implement it because life as a court reporter, as all court reporters understand, we struggle with the ability to predict, like, what our day is going to be like.
Speaker CSo that was something I struggled with for a while.
Speaker CBut now as I've grown as a person and as a coach and as, like, I've tried and failed and tried and failed to.
Speaker CI feel like now I'm finally coming to a point where I'm.
Speaker CIt really does make a difference when I am able to follow that, when I am able to schedule out my weeks that, like, spend that one hour really planning, downloading everything that you have to do out of your brain and onto paper and then prioritizing each thing and putting it into my calendar.
Speaker CSo I'll put my.
Speaker CThe most important thing to me is my.
Speaker CMy spiritual life and my relationships and the people that are mean, that are.
Speaker CThat bring meaning to my life.
Speaker CAnd like, those things are very important.
Speaker CFamily.
Speaker CSo I put those things in first.
Speaker CAnd now that I have like an open canvas calendar without the nine to five, that's what I'll be doing more.
Speaker CI'll be able to put more time into those things.
Speaker CLike, just today I was able to meet with my sister at lunchtime and I just got back from it and it was great because it felt so good to be able to put that in my schedule and be able to actually stick to it.
Speaker CSo that's a good thing about.
Speaker CBut I mean, I do understand that freelance is also unpredictable.
Speaker CSo I'm, you know, that's something that I'm going to be working through.
Speaker BI love that though.
Speaker BIt's.
Speaker BSo you really, like, practice what you preach, kind of.
Speaker CAnd the most important part is like, to take the time to reflect afterwards and figure out, like, okay, why wasn't I able to stick to this schedule?
Speaker CWhat happened, what came up and why and am I.
Speaker CDo I like the reason why?
Speaker CAnd if it was something like that was a good reason, okay, then good.
Speaker CBut if it's like, okay, I didn't really intend for that to happen.
Speaker CThat was a waste of time or something like, then that time of reflecting, which we're supposed to do every, like, on Friday, kind of reflect back on how the week went.
Speaker CI think I personally need to do that every single day.
Speaker CSo that's what I'm doing.
Speaker BI love it.
Speaker BI'm trying to that too.
Speaker BWhat do I have?
Speaker BWho else?
Speaker BOh, who have you encountered in your work?
Speaker BIf anyone that, you know, you want to boost is also being supportive of court reporters or championing their value?
Speaker BI don't know.
Speaker BJust in your, in your podcast or life, have you met other people who do what you do?
Speaker CYeah, well, yes.
Speaker CI mean, there are some court reporters that are doing great work of promoting the profession and volunteering and getting.
Speaker CGetting themselves out there and getting the profession out there in general.
Speaker CAnd I do think that it really helps court reporters to hear from attorneys and from judges about their view on the importance of the court reporter and, like, their view on how a court reporter can do their best and, like, what do they appreciate and what do they not like?
Speaker CAnd I think those kinds of insights are so helpful.
Speaker CSo I want to do more, you know, of the different roles in the justice system, working together and how we can collaborate with each other, even interpreters and court officers.
Speaker CLike, we're a team and a judge too, so.
Speaker CBut I know in freelance it's different.
Speaker CSo then when in freelance, it's more about the relationship between the attorneys and the court reporters.
Speaker CSo I love to dive into the personality types, the emotions we go through, and the communication styles that we have.
Speaker BYes, definitely.
Speaker BWonderful work and wellness.
Speaker BLisa mentioned something, and I hadn't come across it in your podcast, but did you also work in fashion or did you before?
Speaker CNo, I don't work in fashion, but I do like, I like fashion.
Speaker CAnd I have an Instagram called Courthouse Fashion, so I would take pictures when I'm going inside.
Speaker CIf I'm early enough, I would, like, use my tripod or sometimes with the girls, we would go out and do a photo shoot.
Speaker CBut there's a spot at the Supreme Court that's a really good spot for pictures.
Speaker CSo whenever I had a nice outfit on, I would just go out and take a picture and post it.
Speaker CAnd that Instagram gained a large, like, a following and people really like that.
Speaker CSo I still haven't figured out where I'm going with that.
Speaker CBut, yeah, I love fashion.
Speaker CIt's all that, like, it's so important to be able to feel confident in the way that you present yourself.
Speaker CAnd like, if I'm not wearing an outfit that I feel comfortable in, it ruins my whole day.
Speaker CLike, hair, makeup, outfit.
Speaker CI think it's important for me and as a way to express myself and to appear confidently and.
Speaker CAnd also it can be overwhelming for people when they don't know what to wear.
Speaker CAnd it's like it's like a whole project.
Speaker CSo, you know, creating systems and processes and routinizing that aspect of life.
Speaker CI did a podcast episode about that in episode five, I think it was to how to like declutter your brain.
Speaker CSo planning those things ahead, like what you're going to wear, what you're going to eat, or just setting it up as a routine.
Speaker CSo it's kind of just like the same thing again and again, but changing up the color or changing up, you know, something finding your uniform, that's.
Speaker CThat's one thing I'd like to talk about because it's very related to mental health and well being.
Speaker BAbsolutely.
Speaker BI completely agree.
Speaker BWhat are your hopes for the future of, of the court reporting industry or, you know, the court reporting podcast industry, the wellness industry?
Speaker BAny of those.
Speaker CI envision now that I'm like focusing on this more as of now, literally just as of probably next week is, well, like yesterday is when I started.
Speaker CBut really I envision having more, being able to really help more people that are in the same boat that I was in a couple years ago, struggling to manage my life and to organize everything and not feeling like I'm drowning under all these deadlines and pages.
Speaker CAnd so I really want to work with court reporters one on one and, and put the content out there.
Speaker CLike all the content, all the conversations, all the discussions that we have, I want to share it and let it be available for free and not have court reporters have to pay thousands and thousands of dollars on top of all the money that they're already spending on maintaining their equipment and their association, like whatever they have, as it's kind of an expensive profession.
Speaker CSo, like, I would rather have more free content available, which was so difficult for me to find.
Speaker CSo I think, like, as I'm focusing more on this, I'm going to be releasing more episodes, more content on social media, more videos, more YouTube, also hosting more webinars and more open discussions.
Speaker CAnd then eventually I see a community being formed around this and I see a group, like a group coaching program in the future that anyone can bring any questions and can get coached on any topic and we'll all be helping each other in that way.
Speaker BThat's so beautiful.
Speaker BI love question.
Speaker BI see it happening too.
Speaker BLet's see if I have any last.
Speaker BI feel like, like 25, 30 minutes is almost the max.
Speaker BI go because the length of that interview will be.
Speaker BBut I mean, you kind of answered my last few questions.
Speaker BI was going to say, what's your, your number one advice for people getting into court reporting, but seems like you have a lot of great advice, but thank you.
Speaker CNumber one advice would be, well, I guess just kind of knowing if you're going to be good at it.
Speaker CLike, kind of like for me, it's hard to answer that question because for me, I knew, like, it was instinct.
Speaker CI already knew I was, it was going to be like the perfect fit for me, which is something strange because I've never felt like that with anything in life.
Speaker CI always was like, changing my mind, indecisive about everything.
Speaker CBut the court reporting, it just seems like, okay, the, the evidence shows that people who are musical, especially pianists and.
Speaker CRight dexterity.
Speaker CAnd it's like a job that has a flexible schedule where you can, like, choose what days you're working and still make a good living.
Speaker CYeah, no brainer.
Speaker CSo I think, like, yeah, I would say anyone who's thinking about getting into it should definitely try.
Speaker CI don't want to discourage anyone from trying.
Speaker CBut also, like, I feel like more people who are musical, who play piano, who have these skills and traits.
Speaker CIt needs to be advertised to those groups of people because they don't.